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Thinking about marriage/women's rights on Vulcan Some may think that T'Pring not being allowed to divorce Spock was because he was going through the pon farr but if she were allowed to divorce him at all she probably would have done that a long time ago, confirmed by T'Pol when she's speaking with Koss, who isn't suffering from the pon farr. She says that he can choose another mate (without invoking a fight it seems: note the difference between a 'mate' and a 'challenger') and after he makes it clear that nothing she says will change his mind about marrying her, she finally threatens to declare a kal-if-fee. It's clear that Vulcan women cannot divorce/refuse to marry a man they've been betrothed to under any circumstances if A) He himself doesn't consent to ending their marriage or B) She doesn't have someone else waiting in the wings to be given to in his stead. Though, if the challenger she selects fails to win the fight, she'll have to marry her betrothed anyway unless (again) he decides he doesn't want her after the challenge. That seems like an incredibly unfair system, heavily biased towards men. SNW is an alternate universe in many obvious respects but most egregiously in that T'Pring has a lot of non-canonical agency over her relationship with Spock. It's interesting to me that Vulcan society has women in many positions of power and treats women as equal to men from what I've seen despite these laws. We don't really see Vulcans exhibiting a misogynistic attitude towards women in general but in TOS (perhaps because of its general writing style but it's still interesting to note) both Sarek and Spock take on patriarchal attitudes specifically regarding wives. Amanda says that 'of course' Sarek commands her because "he is a Vulcan and I am his wife." It's worthwhile in my eyes to note that she specifies 'wife' instead of attributing this attitude to women as a whole. Again, with TOS' writing style it wouldn't be out of place for her to say "he is a man and I am a woman." Spock, while in a pon farr induced irritation, states that it's "undignified for a woman to play servant to a man that isn't hers" - again implying that there's something specific about being a Wife in Vulcan society which is different from being a woman in general and demands subservience to a husband. This could perhaps stem from the extreme sense of ownership that Vulcan law has permitted men to have over women. A woman legally cannot point blank refuse marriage. There is no option which guarantees she won't have to marry her betrothed other than death. When T'Pau speaks of T'Pring she refers to her as being 'property' and Stonn, before being interrupted, states he's made 'the ancient claim' - we don't know what this is because he gets cut off but it's obvious they're both using the language of Vulcan law. Men are permitted true freedom to choose. If a woman wants to choose someone else to be with there is no option available to her other than the kal-if-fee which might result in the death of the one she wants to be with. And, if her lover fails, her husband can still just decide he wants to marry her and she'll be forced to. T'Pring gives two scenarios: One where Spock 'frees' her and one where he doesn't - it's still ultimately his decision which is clear when he ends the conversation with "Stonn, she is yours." This again isn't just because of the pon farr as T'Pol also goes through this. Koss can choose another mate and when the option is talked about there's no implication that this would result in any sort of fight (both by the casualness of its mention and by the fact that there's no formal word for it unlike the kal-if-fee.) Also, the fact that Koss does eventually grant T'Pol a divorce and it's all fine means that T'Pol isn't lawfully required to have another man waiting if her HUSBAND doesn't want her. It's ONLY required if SHE doesn't want her husband. Tradition must take precedence over individual desire UNLESS!!! You're a man. Then it's fine. Like, your parents might not be happy but legally you're golden.
#as a note do NOT read the comments on any T'Pol marriage clips on youtube they're full of 'haha women amiright' jokes about#how she's leading Trip on and being a bitch for not choosing him etc - if you become interested in female characters you learn#quickly just how much people still hate women displaying any amount of complexity/doing anything that isn't just falling into a man's arms#even if that hatred doesn't take the form of outright vitriol (aka: 'I feel so sad for Trip bc T'Pol's marrying some other guy')#Trip: T'Pol listen this arranged marriage stuff is no good - you've gotta be free! You have to do what YOU want to do!#T'Pol: -legally seen as property of her husband in the eyes of the law- ...............#<- not dunking on Trip it's just funny how easy it makes it seem - but!! He doesn't know all the facts#as evidenced by him saying T'Pol might 'call off the wedding' to her mother - T'Pol can't legally call off shit#It's also interesting how gender isn't really mentioned in any of the clips I've seen - it's very clear to me that T'Pol has no options#specifically because she's a WOMAN within her culture but that's almost like a quiet undercurrent and not focused on as a main#point of dissatisfaction - which I imagine it 1000% would be for Vulcan women when men have infinitely more freedom#Vulcan Man: I don't wanna marry this lady#Vulcan Law: Ok#Vulcan Woman: I don't wanna marry this guy#Vulcan Law: Noted. So - if you and your lover are willing to risk his life there's a chance (if he wins) that you can get out of marrying#him BUT if your husband kills your lover and still wants to marry you you DOOO have to marry him sorry you just gotta#<- this also makes it incredibly dangerous to in any way warn your legal husband that a kal-if-fee might be incoming#the element of surprise is a HUGE advantage when it comes to winning a fight to the death (which your lover can train for)#Vulcans#T'Pol#T'Pring#star trek#I don't think this is bad necessarily (as a fictional worldbuilding thing) but I wish it were explored more#It's especially interesting because it's an aspect of logical Vulcan society - it's clearly not logical but it's also clearly rooted deeply#in tradition which may mean Vulcan long ago used to have a much more extreme gender bias towards the male population#it just implies a lot that Vulcan has these old laws which are unfair towards women yet they still follow BUT women are treated as equal#citizens OUTSIDE of marriage! Maybe there was a feminist movement before? Is there another brewing? Where are the Vulcan feminists!
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For some reason I enjoy seeing "Star Trek" actors done up for different roles. Suzie Plakson kills it in all of hers.
#suzie plakson#recurring actors#k'ehleyr#dr selar#lady q#tarah#q#andorian#vulcan#klingon#hybrid#star trek#aliens#star trek the next generation#star trek: voyager#enterprise#voyager#female q#guest star#actor#actress#alien makeup#tng#ds9
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Their expressions will never not be funny.
#star trek#vulcans#Romulans#romulan commander#spock#star trek tos#t#os#female romulan commander#she's so over it#doghouse for him and he knows it
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#20: The Vulcan Academy Murders (1984)
Lets play a game called "i removed the plot related context of a scene to make it gay"
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#star trek#tos#the original series#spock#kirk#spirk#books#exerpt#vulcan academy murders#kirk not so subtly seeing if it would be weird for a human to be tomantically involved in vulcan society#also! the actual context: this human and vulcan doctor duo is so close they see each other as brothers#and theyve known and worked together for decades#and the vulcan's daughter (that he has known since she was little) has offered to marry him now that she is back on vulcan#and is an adult/has gone through pon farr (female version)#and kirk is like ☝️🤓 im sorry *what* and has been asking around how people feel about it
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If I ever had to question my hermit geeky ways I think I safely secured them today by reading Vulcan fanfiction all day before finally sitting down to "work"
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Day 11 - Gender swap!
I like doing gender swaps of my ocs, one as a design exercise but then also two bc it helps me think about their gender identity. Take T’kaal for example. She presents fairly feminine, but rather than that being a super intrinsic part of her character, I see it as more of… leaning into AGAB. Thus as a guy, Kalvek leans into masculinity but just like how T’kaal actually prefers many masculine traits, he comes off more feminine. T’kaal’s family is very traditional, so gender roles were a big thing growing up and are something she’s still navigating.
Harry on the other hand is more like “yeah AGAB is close enough”-flavor of cis. Both his and Harriet’s gender markers (beard for him, long hair and dresses for her) arise more out of… laziness than conscious gender performance. Harry has never thought about his gender and he’s never gonna bless his heart
#art#ocs#harry crawford#T’kaal#star trek ocs#star trek au#then there’s my ocs like phil where despite what AGAB he would have he always ends up as a dude#side note i love how varied female vulcan hairstyles are from elaborate braids to short cuts#whereas every male vulcan has the same spock cut except tuvok#spock is a trend setter#ALSO kalvek makes me realize how MUCH luci looks like his mom w his dad’s hair and palette. but they have the same face
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An illogical emotion
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Words: 801 Summary: You catch Lieutenant Commander Chovak staring at you. But there's probably nothing to it, right? Warnings: kinda fluffy, first kiss
As a member of the engineering crew aboard the science vessel SS Resolute, you've encountered your fair share of interstellar wonders and captivating adventures. Life onboard was nothing short of exhilarating, as you delved into the depths of the cosmos, discovering new frontiers and pushing the boundaries of human exploration. However, amidst the bustling activity on the ship, you couldn't help but notice a peculiar gaze directed towards you. Chief Engineer Chovak, a distinguished Vulcan known for his unwavering logic and dedication to his craft, had been fixating his piercing eyes upon you during your daily tasks. At first, you dismissed it as mere coincidence, attributing it to the peculiar and sometimes strange behaviour of the Vulcan species interacting with more emotionally driven species. Vulcans were renowned for their mastery of suppressing emotions in favor of logic, after all, which sometimes felt weird to a human like you. But as the days passed, a flicker of doubt ignited within you. There was this undeniable pattern to Chovak's stares, and they were devoid of the usual stoicism that characterised his expressions, or at least you thought so. It was as if a hidden ember of something akin to affection or even love smouldered behind his usually impassive facade.
Conflicted by this unexpected turn of events, you found yourself drawn into a game of intrigue and curiosity. Did Chovak, who was not only your superior but also the epitome of Vulcan logic on this ship, harbour such feelings towards you? Was there a deeper meaning behind his intense gazes, or was it merely a figment of your imagination, fuelled by your own attraction towards the handsome Vulcan? In search of answers, you embarked upon a clandestine investigation, discreetly observing Chovak's interactions with others and analysing his subtle behaviours. Yet, the more you observed, the more questions arose. His interactions with the rest of the crew remained as professional as ever, making the singularity of his focus on you even more elusive.
One night, as only the two of you were working late in the engine room, you couldn't resist the urge any longer. You approached Chovak, hesitantly breaking the silence that had surrounded you.
"Lieutenant Commander, may I speak with you?", you almost whispered, trying to avoid eye contact.
The shuffling of his feet on the ground told you that Chovak must have turned to face you directly, his Vulcan features probably as calm and composed as always.
"Of course, he replied, his voice devoid of any emotion as he spoke your name.
"I-I-I couldn't help but notice your stares and...uhm..." you stammered, struggling to find the right words without indicating your suspicions, "is there something you wish to discuss or convey to me?"
You finally mustered the courage to look up to find Chovak's eyes searching yours. There was a flicker of something, a momentary lapse in his logical facade.
"In a world governed by logic, love seems incongruous," he murmured, almost to himself, "but it seems it is a feeling that I can neither dismiss nor hide any longer."
Your heart skipped a beat as his words sank in. Could it be? Was Chovak confessing his love for me, a mere crew member aboard the spaceship? The implications of his revelation were overwhelming, and yet, a part of you longed to explore this newfound connection. Before you could respond, Chovak's composure returned, and he averted his gaze.
"Forgive me for my momentary lapse," he said, his voice steady once again, "it is an illogical emotion, it goes against our professional relationship on this ship and I shall not trouble you further."
And just like that, the conversation ended, leaving you with a whirlwind of emotions and unanswered questions. You watched as Chovak resumed his duties, his stoic facade firmly back in place. You weren't ready to handle going back to normal again. There stood your superior, a Vulcan who, against all logic, confessed having feelings for you and you wouldn't let him pretend as it never happened. You stomped towards him, cradled the back of his neck, pulling him closer as your lips crashed on his. It took him a moment to process what you just did, his eyes staring wide at you but once the initial shock had passed, his arms wrapped around your waist, pulling you closer as he deepened the kiss. His lips were warm and soft and despite his usual stoic demeanour, you felt raw passion seeping through. He was the first to break the kiss, panting slightly and a smile formed on his lips at the small whimper that escaped you at the sudden loss of his touch.
“This will be complicated”, he stated rather dryly while still smiling.
“I'm human, complicated is my daily business”, you chuckled, leaning your head against his shoulder.
More Star Trek stories:
An unlikely bond (Portal Six Three x reader)
#star trek#star trek resurgence#chovak#chief engineer chovak#lieutenant commander chovak#vulcan#chovak x reader#vulcan x reader#star trek x reader#chovak x female reader
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Fascinating.
#fan art#star trek lower decks#star trek the original series#t'lyn#star trek lower decks t'lyn#mr spock#star trek spock#blue#mike mcmahan#gene roddenberry#leonard nimoy#Gabrielle Ruiz#science fiction#art#hmvw2015#hannah van weelden#female artists on tumblr#artists on tumblr#vulcan#more to come#cbs studios#adobe animate#digital drawing#digital art#go watch it
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The worst trope in the universe is when someone accuses character A, who is part of a real or fantasy or coded minority, of doing something bad and everyone's like "That's just your prejudice against [real or fantasy minority]!" and it turns out character A actually did do that bad thing and everyone else was stupid for not believing they did that bad thing.
#skimmed a fanfic with B'Elanna in it (Skimmed bc I knew this might happen)....BIG MISTAKE#Ex: 'You just think I stole something because I'm a ferengi!' and they did steal something. Because they're a ferengi.#And you were stupid to think they didn't because of COURSE they did because they're a Ferengi#People seriously write B'Elanna as just hysterically violent and mad all the time 'because she's a klingon' and I haaaate it#you haveto think about the implications you HAVE to you HAVE to#male characters and white characters are given so much interiority and reasoning behind their actions in fanon pleeeaaaseee#it's so obvious to see (not talking about a specific fic) that people even when writing female characters and/or characters of color don't#actually see them as full or interesting people and it's sad dude it's sad to see a little paper cut out caricature of a character you love#B'Elanna in any fic: I'm mad. / Tuvok in any fic: I'm Vulcan. / Harry in any fic: I'm nice. / Chakotay in any fic: I love Janeway.#honestly if Seven wasn't in voyager people wouldn't even pretend to care about the show bc it's SO obvious they only REALLY care about the#white characters#'I watch Voyager for Seven! I skip the early seasons bc Seven's not there! My favorite characters on Voyager are Seven and Tom and Janeway'#HEY~! You and the writers both buddy!!!#'All of these characters of color don't interest me and are so annoying and one dimensional' Hey~!!!!!!!!!!!!! HEY~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#aaagh that turned into such a rant sorryyy
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nice detail that women are now allowed to be captains. Turnabout Intruder established that women were not permitted to be starship captains (which I still think is fucking insane considering how progressive TOS is with feminism specifically) but seeing as we have Saavik taking the Kobayashi Maru, that's clearly been changed
#star trek: tos#I found that a bizarre thing in Turnabout Intruder#especially because we have seen women in positions of command in TOS- we see women in command gold#so I do find it very strange that women weren't allowed to be starship captains#seems a very bizarre rule- especially since even in TOS the Federation isnt JUST humans#youre telling me Vulcans would've allowed that?#anyways glad to see they changed that in the movies#obviously I knew it changed later on since in TNG there are female captains and female admirals#but still. nice to see as far back as the TOS days
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I think the original Spock definitely meant it when he gave the elders the traditional greeting/farewell
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I finally managed to find time to start on season 4 of lower decks and Tendi and T'lyn's friendship is one of my favourite things. I want to write little buddy fanfics of them running around having adventures.
I also just watched Something Borrowed Something Green and would love more Orion based episodes please and thank you.
#star trek#lower decks#lower decks spoilers#i love orions and love female vulcans#i appreciate lower decks writing storylines for me personally
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#Black Vulcans#Vulcans#Star Trek#Star Trek Lower Decks#Shara#Shara Wiki#wikis#alien character#star trek aliens#cartoons#black female cartoon characters#adult animation#Black Femme Character with Black Voice Actor#Joy Brunson#Girl That's Queuedt#Black Women in Star Trek#Black Women in Sci Fi
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#Female oc#Oc#Child#Vulcan#Vulcan oc#Sarek#Amanda#Daughter#Fanart#Drawing#grandpizzaeater#Star trek#Mirna
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#vulcans#vulcan#the vulgar vulcan discord#vuhlkansu#vulcan art#vulcan language#vulkan#vulcan salute#llap#hand sign#asl#cosplay#comicon#comicon2023#female#model#posture#logic#science#san diego#sdcc
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Spitballing with the fellas on discord and we've come up with a Star Trek character we want to see: A 200-year-old top Vulcan diplomat attending a function and laughing boisterously and slapping backs with everyone and then just relaxing into resting bitch face the moment nobody is watching him. He takes his job deadly seriously and studied parties extensively in the diplomatic academy. Every year he's brushing up on new developments in party theory. He knows every party nuance you could possibly think of, for the sake of intergalactic relations. Peace in the galaxy depends on it. It's weird but you gotta meet people where they're at, he thinks.
#star trek#vulcans#comic#fanart#ambassador sarek#star trek fanart#no i have no idea what sarek is wearing#i relied on google images for reference and so he ended up in some weird combo of his outfit in the tng episode#and one of his tos costumes#also i realised after drawing this that the presence of a ferengi female in starfleet#means that this has to be post ds9#which… may mean that it's also post-sarek's death??#whatever#call it a time travel mixup#also spork is 100% fitting with established vulcan naming conventions#and i take no criticism
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